Posted: 10 Jul 2008 12:37 pm
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Marvin,
I do not drink Kool-Aid. I guess that comment was making an assumtion about our ages???? I am also not in the typical young Obama-supporter target age bracket. But I don't know, maybe that's not even what you meant.
I love that your opinion differs from mine. If it weren't for people like us, moderation wouldn't exist. You have to have extremes to form an average middle ground, which seems to be the best way to operate (like a system of checks and balances).
I realize that my using the term "racist" may have been misleading - I wasn't refering to Obama's race, I was refering to people who don't like/ are afraid of people from the Middle East in the context of illuminating Obama's middle name. Just because someone's name is Hussein doesn't mean they are a terrorist, just like someone's name is Smith doesn't mean they are a decendant of the wacky man who "discovered" Mormanism. Maybe I'm wrong about Obama's middle name being used to play on people's fears. It seems that it happens that way to me, but that is just my opinion and I don't mean to project my opinion as truth.
Carry on with your vote, I will carry on with mine. That, after all, is why I am proud to call this country my home.
Posted: 10 Jul 2008 05:23 pm
Post Subject: Re: Put Cal Thomas in the Religion Section
Carrie,
Go to Wikipedia and type in "Jim Jones" and you will see where the term, "Kool-Aid Drinkers" originated. PBS did a documentary on the whole event and I saw it not long ago and it was chilling how people will follow a charismatic leader like Jones. Kool-Aid drinkers are those who blindly follow a leader and justify everything he/she does and believes everything they say. I'm not saying that you are one of those people. There are Kool-Aid drinkers on both sides of the aisle. I just know that when I use terms like that it is going to stir up Kevin, Jacob, ole' Bill P, and others. I just like to rattle their cages every once in a while so I can listen to them squawk.
As far as finding a perfect church goes, please let me know when you find one; however, I don't believe one exists because they are all made up of fallible people. Christ was the only perfect person so there are always going to be flaws in every church. Maybe you just need to find one in which you feel comfortable and start helping it to improve. A newcomer can often see the flaws better than someone who has gone there all their life. All the best on your hunt. Maybe Bill P. will start his own church. Right now, though, he is too busy trying to get B. Hussein Obama elected (sorry, I couldn't resist it).
Posted: 14 Jul 2008 09:33 am
Post Subject: Re: Put Cal Thomas in the Religion Section
Marvin - actually, I realized what you were referring to AFTER I posted the message. :) Oops.
Hmmmm...what's worse - a stereotype about age or being compared to suicidal cult followers? I think I would have prefered the former. But thank you for your objective explanation.
I know people are not perfect, and there is no "perfect" church. I'd just like to find one where people actually know who Jesus is and try act like him instead of an interpretation of him that serves their own agenda. For instance, I have a hard time believing Jesus would do anything but welcome immigrants with open arms when they are leaving a country with a corrupt government and police who regularly rape women. Also, I have heard the following comments from people in church:
"If women would dress more modestly, there wouldn't be as many rapes." - straight from a minister's mouth during a sermon
"You don't want to enroll your kids at Chapel Hill; there are too many blacks there, if you know what I mean." - from a Deacon to a minister moving to Tyler
"God isn't present in every church. There are "dead churches" where all they do is sit there, sing, and listen to a sermon. God doesn't like that - he only goes to churches where people get up, get excited, wave their hands and really glorify him" - paraphrase from a little girl in the documentary, Jesus Camp
I don't think Jesus has much to do with what goes on in churches these days. I am pretty sure, however, that I can stay much closer to God's word when I pray directly instead of going through an organization that thrives on power and control.
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